Supper Club × Caleb Porzio

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Wash those hands, pull up a chair, and secure that feed bag, because it's time to listen to Scott Tolinski and Wes Bos attempt to use human language to converse with and pick the brains of other developers. I thought there was gonna be food, so buckle up and grab that old handle because this ride is going to get wild.

This is the Syntax supper club.

Welcome to Syntax, the podcast with the tastiest web development treats out there. We've got a A much requested, guest on the show, Caleb Porzio.

A couple times, we've we've been mentioning some the projects that you work on, over the years, and we thought, like, might as have them on. Let's let's talk about it. So, Caleb's the author of Alpine JS LiveWire, and we'll talk about whatever else he does.

We'll get right into that. So welcome, Caleb. Thanks so much for coming on. Yeah. Thanks for having me. I'm pumped.

We, let's start with a little bit of light buffalo talk. Yeah. Because Little light, but You got it.

So I'm from I'm from Hamilton, which is literally 57 minutes away from Buffalo, and we were just talking about how, despite all the, medicine and health care, we do not have Trader Joe's or Target in Canada.

That's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah. We Target. To me, tar it's like, Well, there's Walmart and Target. Like, every woman has access to a Target.

We had Target about 8 years ago, Target came to Canada, and they opened, Probably 70, 80 of them. Like, we had them everywhere, and they were open for maybe 6 months, and they had major supply chain issues where they couldn't keep the product on the shelf. Like, we'd loved it. And we would go there all the time. And, would you not? Yeah. It was amazing. And something happened with the rollout, and they closed them, like, all down, because they couldn't like, it it failed in Canada, and it probably because of supply chain issues because everybody loves Target. So, Pretty sad about that. I remember we went to the we went to the like, when they closed the store down, they they were selling literally everything, like the shelves gets in and everything done. Anytime there's, like, a a liquidation of of any business, I'll go in and just, like, like, maybe I do need a mannequin, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah. Totally.

Yeah. Wes, I was a target team member for, like Oh, yeah. 4 years or so. So I was one of my first jobs. Yeah.

Zone 116.

That's crazy. I know. I ride ride in khaki all day. Yeah. I didn't know,

I didn't know how, like, Canadian buffalo was, until, like, Adam Wavin and friends would, like, tell me that, like, dude, you just, like, live in Canada, but you're in the US. Because, like, I drink Tim Hortons all the time. I had Tim Hortons yesterday.

Like, that just happens constantly, and that's, like, not something other people do in the US, really.

No. And we like, Labatt Blue? We have, like, a Labatt Blue 6 pack in our city, like a grain silo painted like a Labatt Blue 6 pack. A whole huge grain. So so I don't know. We drink Molson Canadian. Like, that's another common thing. We're like, yeah. We drink Molson. Like, that's a Wait. Where where are you from? I missed that part. We love hockey, like Buffalo. Oh, yes. Right. Correct. Yeah. And Michigan is very similar to all of that. Hockey,

we had a lot of Canadian beer, Tim Hortons. We didn't we didn't yeah. Very, very Canadian. And we would go to Windsor to, to use our, IDs at the bars when we weren't of drinking age in college. Yeah. Right. Same.

A 100%. Niagara Falls. Yep. Yeah. We go to winter. You know what I mean? Come over to Niagara Falls? Oh, yeah. Totally. Yeah. Oh, man. As soon as you turn 18, it's like a rite of passage. It's you know? That's that's great. Oh, man. Well, I'll I'll have to say hi next time I'm in Buffalo because,

Even, like, when I I sold stickers over the years, like, what I would do is I'd literally just

cross the border and mail them using the US postal stuff because it was significantly cheaper. You should have dropped 1 off at my house, and it would have got there way faster. I used to order your stickers, and I remember you tweeting,

at one point, like, a picture of you in Buffalo, like, dropping them off. I'm like, dude, I live, like, around the block from there. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that oh, man. Just, do some dry dry drop offs down. I will. That buff yeah. I always say Buffalo and Michigan should just become part of Canada because, honestly, See, they're they're more Canadian then. Like, you guys can have like, we'll trade America. Give us all of Michigan and and Buffalo, Tonawanda And Yeah. Yes. You guys can it's funny because we grew up, watching Fox 29 because we would get the buffalo channels over the air, like, from the antenna. Yep. And it was hilarious because we would, like, I have vivid memories of Lockport Gambino Ford, which is like a dealership that would have commercials.

And,